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Due to the outrageous behavior of the Teamster's Airline Organization in regards to KHA's organizing effort, we feel that they deserve their own little piece of realestate on the Web. Read on....

IPA (UPS) Website
Parsed version of VP Smith's letter
KPA's fax to the IBT
Response to Pizzaman's letter
Keepin the Brutha Down
Letter to AFL-CIO From KPA

Handwritten Fax cover from Don Triechler

03-03:  Leak From Abex Re: FPA

Oh god! Hey guys before you get the "teamster hard-on" please feel free to
contact any pilot at Airborne Express regarding the great Teamster support!
It's laughable, just ask the many pilots who needed medical expertise to
retain their tickets-----------none.  Teamsters are good at one thing,
filling their pockets. Our dues at Airborne are 2.5% and rising. I figure with
the Teamsters representing a pilot , you stand a 1 in 5 chance of getting
fired. Consider carefully!

Don't know where this came from.  No surprise.

07-19: EJA Pilots Nix Local747

It has come to our attention that the Executive Jet Pilots have overwhelmingly voted down joining the local 747. They have remained with their present group, another separate local. More info to follow. The word is out.

07-10: Wow

Have you seen this on AIA's website?

Mike

SEE IF I GOT THIS RIGHT

Conrad Kalitta buys American International Airways approxiately 12 years ago.

After some Multi Million bucks, he expands, and starts flying every heavy piece of iron he owns or leases under the banner, AIA.

$$$Money is flowing, and crews are humping$$$!!!

Crews start to get disatisfied, due to "fly it or get fired"!!!!

Days off are not honored!!!!

Next thing, crews organize, and vote Union.

Afterall, Mr. Kalitta wants his share of the profits, and the crews should be so lucky to have a job!!!!!

Union is voted in, and Mr. Kalitta makes statements that seem to follow history.

Kitty Hawk, runned by Tom Christopher, who is and has been a loyal friend of Mr. Kalitta's for some time, arrives at the most opportune time in AIA's History, to rescuse AIA from bankruptcy, by putting together a package to purchase AIA, so that AIA won't file bankruptcy, and Mr. Kalitta will still be a part of the deal!!!!!

When the smoke had cleared, people where talking about how great things looked for the future. Wasn't it strange that AIA was kept a seperate identidity from KHA?????????????

Oh well, just sour grapes.

Well, it seems that KHA decided within a short number of days(April) that things weren't going the way they planned, so they Shut Down KHI real quick!!!!!!!!

That KHI being their ticket to heavy Iron flying, being Deep Six didn't matter!!!!

NOW, out of the clear blue sky, Mr. Kalitta has offered to buy KHI's Certificate, if the Teamsters make concessions.

The Teamsters and their "so called Pizza man" are hoping for the best.

NOW YOU KNOW WHY LIBERALS FIGHT THE DEATH PENALTY!!!! NOT BECAUSE HE MIGHT BE GUILTY, HE PROBABLY IS, BUT BECAUSE STRANGER THINGS DO HAPPEN, AND WHEN YOU YOU LEARN THE TRUTH LATER IN YOUR LIFE IT REALLY WAKES YOU UP!!!!!!!!!!!!

CONGRATULATIONS IS IN ORDER FOR MR. KALITTA!!!!!

TIME WAS NO FACTOR FOR HIM.

HE LAUNCHED A BATTLE TO DESTROY, YES DESTROY, AND IN THE END HE WON.

YOU LOST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ONLY PROBLEM WILL BE FAA WILL BE WISER, AND SO WILL OTHERS WHO SAW IT 3 YEARS AGO.

SMOOTH SAILING CONNIE!!!!!!

IF THIS WAS A NOVEL FORCED UPON SOME EDITOR, HE WOULD GIVE IT THE THUMBS DOWN IN A HEART BEAT!

UNFORTUNATELY, MANY OF YOUS ARE LIVING IT!!!!!!!!

MUST SAY, WHEN I HEARD WHAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN IN 1997, I WAS APPALLED WITH DISBELIEF. JUST DIDN'T THINK IT COULD HAPPEN.

NOW YOU KNOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Fellow Crewmembers,

It is what it is and nothing else. It is a seperate deal made exclusively for Connie or another buyer. KH will get none of the benifits of any of the concessions, not that it matters because they have told the Judge under oath that KHI will not fly again under their flag.

I know what Tree would say to the accusations that I've given away the store. But that's Tree, not Me. If you guys think I gave away any of my claims then ...........and the horse you rode in on.

The concessions are for a new company only. Everything else is still at KH in Court so spend your time filling out your claims and getting them in. I'd loose just as much or more than most of you. Just how dumb do you think I am!!??

You want your money!!!and don't like the way the IBT's representing you!!!then I'll pull the IBT off and you can go at it yourselves.

I wont even be recalled in this deal if it goes. I'm giving up time from my job search to see if we can get a few jobs. I'm really disappointed at some of the names I've seen signed to some of the most critical posts. I thought you knew me better than that.

To those who dont sign: ##### you!

Pizzaman

Arrow Points away from the IBT

Captain Pedro Duff from the Arrow Pilots Association requests the following assistance from the pilots of Kittyhawk. They would like all crew members who would like to voice their opinions on the IBT Local 747 to call him at 305-380-6083. Additionally he would like to have a copy of the threatening IBT phone message that went out to many of our pilots as well.

Due to the recent merger between Fine Air and Arrow, the IBT wants to represent the combined airline where before they only represented FineAir. This is a chance for our crewmembers to return the favor that IBT gave us.

Trust Management?

Fellow crewmembers, I have been following your vote processes for a union and am sorry to hear about Mr. Triechler, the IBT and their efforts to hinder your process. On the other hand as a former KHI employee I can tell you that you CANNOT trust anything management tells you. Just take a look at what they are doing to us. Forget about all the indifferences and just look at what should have been paid out. Such as the salaries until the day of closing, the perdiem and the AMEX bills. We are not going to get our pay nor our perdiem and those who had AMEX cards are stuck with the bill. This is only the tip of the iceberg. I am telling you this because prior to the shut down (on Thursday I called and asked if we were shutting down and was told unequivocally NO. Then the next day on Friday they announced the shut down. We were then told that our last paycheck would be paid on the 5th. then that was changed to the 14th and finally we were told we are not getting paid.

The bottom line, take another vote if you have to but do not go in house. The IBT with all its faults, is still better than the alternative. At least we have lawyers fighting our cause which gives me a ray of hope to get my salary paid. If we were an in house union we would not have had a leg to stand on nor the money to fight back.

Good Luck

Louie

Luis,

Thank you for your post. However, I must say that if you think that we as a pilot group will have ANYTHING to do with the IBT at this point, you are wrong. We have been held hostage by the IBT for over two years now, at a time when we need representation most! The actions of the IBT towards the KHA pilots has been agregeous at best! I think that I can speak for my brethren and sistren by saying that the IBT can fall from a high mountain peak.

Your Brutha in Flight,

Mohafta


06-08: Take Your Ball and Go Home

I will make this short,

I do not understand why the IBT refuses the KHA pilot group to be represented by the organization of our choice. It appears that your perception of article 21 interference (of which there was none) gives you the right to "take your ball and go home" so nobody else can play. If all your letters touting the benefits of organization are true, and that all you ever wanted was for us to be organized by someone, Then why not let us have the organization of our choice?

The facts are that the IBT received 1 vote.For all your efforts I would think that a pretty expensive vote. The point I am making is that the KHA pilot group never wanted the IBT and after your performance of late NEVER WILL! So why not give up the school yard antics remove your article 21 complaint and let us get on with our lives. Regardless of what you think, I never received anything from ALPA during your organization efforts, on the other hand my mail box was cluttered with your propaganda continuously. the IBT lost fair and square GET OVER IT!

Do the right thing

Ron Sutherland
Captain 727

06-02: IBT Petitions to Release us From One Year Bar

To the KHA crewmembers:(A response from a KHA Crewmember follows...

On June 1, 2000, the NMB ruled that the KHA crewmembers would not have a one year bar imposed on them insofar as another election is concerned. The Director of the Airline Division of the IBT, Ray Benning, requested that the all bars imposed by the NMB be removed in the KHA case. In view of the involvement of ALPA, at KHA and elsewhere, and the AFL-CIO's ruling that ALPA is barred for a year from representing your group, the NMB ruling permits you to collect cards, file for an election, and elect a representative at any time you may choose, so long as that is not ALPA. The IBT will not participate in such election, if you decide to pursue one. We wish you well in any such endeavor.

Don Treichler

Response

Well, it seems to me that at least part of our representation problem has been solved. Since ALPA was barred from representing our group, and the IBT has so graciously bowed out, it seems to me that the KPA has won by a landslide. Or by default, depends on how you look at it I guess. By a 4 to 1 margin, the KPA routed the IBT in a hotly contested election to represent the Pilots of Kitty Hawk Air Cargo. Never in recorded history has there been such an overwhelming defeat against such against such enormous odds. (Unless of course you count 304 to 1) All 4 of you who voted for the KPA, I want to thank you from the bottom of my shriveled little heart for having the foresight to vote for what is in the near future to be our union of choice.

Do we really need another election? I think not. A 75% to 25% victory is definitely a mandate for what the pilots at Kitty Hawk wanted. I also want to thank Capt. Treichler for his magnanimous gesture (throwing in the towel after his butt had been so handily kicked) and his undying efforts in support of the KPA (the letters and phone calls really helped). We couldn't have done it without you Don. Now is the time for all of us Freight Dogs to band together behind the KPA banner and unite.

But seriously folks, I think this may be a way to come out of this mess represented, and organized. Just remember, a union is only as strong as it's pilot group. With the right leadership and support from within, the KPA=Pilots of Kitty Hawk, can help this place live up to the potential that it has to be a great place to come to work.

Thanks Mo for all your effort, keep up the good work.Ed note: Powah to 'da people....

The Fr8Dawg

05-04:

Express One Capt on the Teamsters

From: Ptazz@aol.com
Date sent: Thu, 4 May 2000 09:53:58 EDT
Subject: Teamsters
To: thebark@thebark.org

Hi

My name is Pete Bitzker, I am a 727 Captain at Express One International. I have been reading your comments, as concerns the Teamster. EOI had a vote 2 1/2 years ago, and voted the IBT in. Since then, our old owners have been keeping the IBT tied up in court. Further, our attrition rate has been so high, that out of the 300 pilots now employed, only about 100 were here for the original vote.

We have recently formed the Express One Crewmembers Association, in an attempt to get a new vote, and hopefully dispatch the Teamsters to where-ever it is they belong.

As you have allready earned the T shirt, and been dragged backwards through this shit allready, we would sincerely appreciate any comments you would like to place on our comments board.www.eoiforum.homestead.com

I thank you.

Pete

04-28: Dear Mr. Treichler

Sir I do appreciate your honesty and your candor in your response to my letter. I must ask of you "how has ALPA violated the AFL-CIO constitution> during the recent drive by our own KPA ?" Also you responded to the following statement from my previous correspondence 1..........we vote in ALPA as a write in candidate (never mind that this proves once and for all that they are our Representation of choice) but you are successful in your PROTEST against ALPA..... Result: we are left without representation because of your actions by stating that "ALPA has time and again violated the AFL-CIO constitution" ......so does this mean because of the way you feel about ALPA you have filed against them when they had nothing to do with the current drive ? Mr. Treichler.....only we suffer because of this action. maybe I am missing something here and honestly I do want to understand the current situation. My confusion admittedly stems from your filing against ALPA as it relates to the current drive. It appears in order to settle a score you have no qualms about leaving us unrepresented ?????..... Does this seem like fair play to you ???? ...........Your actions could potentially leave us without representation and this doesn't seem to bother you at all. !!!! As far as I see you have interfered with our vote and Mr. Treichler that is not fair play by any stretch of the imagination. I did not ask much of you when I asked for you to allow our vote to go unencumbered by any outside hindrances and delaying actions....this drive is not an ALPA drive but a KPA drive funded by those brave members of the UOC who I must add once again did so at great risk to their own careers.

In response to your stating "why do I criticize the IBT ".......rest assured my intent is not to do that. I simply wish to understand the logic behind filing against ALPA when this is a KPA drive.

Also you mention the seniority integration language that KHI has in place and you ask of me "Would I be equally as understanding as the KHI crewmembers were" in reference to any mergers. In response to that I must once again re-emphasize my feelings by saying that my honest feeling is that we all prosper. and I wish only the best for the KHI crewmembers.........this is not about those fine folks but about the IBT's recent actions.....that said ....KHI language was written to protect KHI (as all good contract language should) not anyone else. And comparing ALPA merger language to this case is like comparing apples and oranges. We are not being bullied by an ALPA carrier that could potentially win a single carrier petition.!!!!! KHI's contract was not written with our best interest in mind (and shouldn't be). Its purpose is to protect KHI pilots.

In summary, What is the purpose of an injunction against ALPA when this is a KPA drive ? What is your response to the fact that we could be left without representation if your protest against ALPA is successful ? What have you gained by this protest? Why would you want to delay the vote (if in fact you do) ?

Once again, I do appreciate you responding to my questions and thoughts and I do thank you for clearing up my deficiencies as it relates to the Railway labor act. I can assure you of one thing.....I will keep an open mind regarding this matter......I do not condone any acts that could be construed as violations of the AFL-CIO constitution and if you have proof that somehow there has been foulplay committed by anyone, then sir you should bring that forward so that we may make a better informed decision in these very important days remaining.

Sincerely,
M.Doran

Response

Dear M. Doran:

I will be brief on the points you raised. Filings against ALPA do not have as a purpose to deprive you of representation. You can achieve representation by voting for KPA, the Teamsters, or someone other than ALPA. The AFL-CIO filings have to do with ALPA violations of that Constitution. That is a separate matter that is heard at the AFL-CIO and that I will not discuss here. Nonetheless, such violations are, in our view, detrimental to the labor movement overall. The risk involved has to do specifically with that issue. Beyond that, I believe I answered fully the issues you raised.

Best rgds,

Don Treichler

4-20-2000

Bark:

I was pleasantly surprised to see Mr. Don Treichler respond to my Prolific Rant entitled, P-O'd at the IBT 4-2-00. To quote Mr. Treichler from his letter dated April 14, 2000, "The authors are entitled to their opinions. Nonetheless, I will provide you my comments as well. I intend to follow the facts and not engage in false accusations." Did he just call me a liar? What the heck, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. Here is my rebuttal to his rebuttal to my original letter:

Per Diem
Don claims that he does in fact know that our Per Diem is $1.50/hour. WRONG. I said $36.00/day. If a KHA pilot leaves his home on Monday afternoon, he/she is paid $36.00. If you figure a KHA pilots leaves at noon on the first day and returns home at noon on the last day, a KHA pilot is making about $1.80/hour Per Diem when they are away from home. When KHI's Per Diem rate finally reaches $1.70 in 2002, a KHA pilot will still be making more Per Diem. Of course, we don't have a separate international rate. And who cares about World's Per Diem rate. When KHA has had a union for twenty years, then we'll compare.

Comparison of Polar and World contracts. In my original letter, I never said Polar had a better contract than World. What I did say was that I expected World to have a better contract than Polar because Polar is on their first contract and World has had a union for a VERY LONG TIME. In his rebuttal, he goes on to compare World and Polar about six times. But what really has me scratching my head is his claim that KHI captain pay exceeds Polar's, especially in the early years. Looking at the pay rates on the last page of his letter, I see almost every hourly pay column at Polar Year 00 to be equal to or higher than KHI year 00. In addition, they both have the same guarantee of 60 hours. I only have his pay table to go by, so I may be wrong...

ALPA and the Teamsters
He claims that the IBT has not threatened ALPA over various crewmember raids. Then who did? I'd bet money the IBT went to the AFL-CIO and complained to them about ALPA's "conduct" who then threatened ALPA. Isn't that the same as saying the IBT threatened ALPA? Plus, if the crewmembers left the IBT or voted in ALPA, was it not because they wanted to? I am sure ALPA did not put a gun to their collective heads and force them to vote in ALPA. If the IBT can't compete with ALPA, then they should get out of the pilot business.

The IBT and the UPS pilots

In his rebuttal, he acknowledges the past mistakes of the IBT. But then he asks why I didn't mention FedEx, Continental/Eastern, or American. FedEx is a complex issue. Ask a FedEx pilot about the whole ordeal. I would guess a few pilots would say it was a mistake to get rid of ALPA. Now his mention of Continental leaving ALPA worries me. Continental left ALPA because Frank Lorenzo declared Chapter 11 and ripped-up the ALPA contract. ALPA went on strike and Frank hired a bunch of scabs to replace them. Granted, it was not ALPA's finest hour, but they learned from it and successfully prevented the same thing from happening at United in 1985. American left ALPA back in the 1960s. Hardly applicable today. His final mention of Eastern pilots feeling that ALPA sold them out is trying to simplify a very complex issue. If you weren't there and would like to read about it, buy "Hard Landing" from Thomas Petzinger. A very good book about deregulation and union activity. Finally, the IBT probably managed to convert fence sitters to ALPA's side by leaving a "threatening" message on some KHA pilot's answering machines. I was one of the lucky ones to get the message and I have to admit that I was pretty pissed off when I heard it. Oh yeah, the follow-up letter was a nice touch. It seems to me that the IBT's actions should be considered vote tampering. Probably isn't, but should be. So how can I vote for a union that sends me letters full of half-truths and then when it feels like it's losing, threatens everyone else to get their way? Isn't that the definition of a bully? Vote overwhelmingly for ALPA, and call the Teamster's bluff to void your god given right to representation.

Fraternally,

KHA B727